Pastor Michael Phillips offers a nice overview in this MP3 of the Anabaptist movement, both the origin and early history of this group as well as an exploration of some of their key teachings. Speaking as an "anabaptist" (one twice baptized - once the wrong way as a little devil of a baby, once the right way as a professing believer) I really admire the convictions of the early believers who took a stand for their convictions, often with their lives sacrificed as a result.
Pastor Phillips talks about Conrad Grebel, a student of Zwingli in the 16th century. Zwingli was assailing the catholic mass at that time, as something not found in Scripture. Grebel took that a step further and applied that same reasoning logically to infant baptism as well. What is fascinating is that Zwingli privately agreed, yet hypocritically he publically supported paedobaptism. And sadly at that time it was the city council that stood in judgment over the matter, with Zwingli's backing, when truthfully Christ is the only head of the church. Grebel was arrested, imprisoned, but ultimately able to flee and continue to spread the word. The message also continues into details about Felix Manz and also Michael Sattler, the later who faced a brutal torture and execution simply because he taught and believed in the Scripturally-correct mode of baptism.
While the anabaptists were not without faults theologically, one of the interesting points made by Pastor Phillips is that, while there will be Judases in baptist churches, these are NOT ones that are deliberately brought in, whereas in the paedobaptising congregations, as he puts it in the message, the practice was that of "sprinkled water on the heads of little devils and brought into the church". Strong, true, but accurate.
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Saturday, January 1, 2011
Polity (and Baptism) in the Local Church with Mark Devers
Recently listened to Mark Dever of 9Marks deliver an excellent message on the topic of church polity, what what caught my notice the most was his closing comments on the topic of baptism, that literally capped off the last final moments of the message. I'm jotting a few notes down here because I think Pastor Dever is right on about this.
Dever identifies how there is no teaching of infant baptism in the new testament, nor are there any parallels of it to circumcision in the new testament. The Apostle Paul denies the connection in Colossians 2, and rather parallels spiritual circumsicion to physical baptism, with the idea being that when you are born again you are to be baptized.
There is no mention of baptizing infants in the Didache, and there is no record of infant baptism in the first or second century. By the third century there are a few disputed cases, but by the end of the third century the baptisms are Rome-style "saving" baptisms. Until the time of Zwingli and Calvin, there is no infant baptism articulated that is not saving.
Dever's presented a summary that the oldest opinion would be that of believers baptism, the second oldest opinion that of the "saving" baptisms of the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholics, and the third oldest being 1,000 years later with the reformers.
In Romans 6 Paul is assuming that all those who have the new life have been baptized (again, being born again then baptized). There is an implies acceptance of the cognitive gospel prior to baptism.
Here's the link to the message: Polity in the Local Church with Mark Dever
Dever identifies how there is no teaching of infant baptism in the new testament, nor are there any parallels of it to circumcision in the new testament. The Apostle Paul denies the connection in Colossians 2, and rather parallels spiritual circumsicion to physical baptism, with the idea being that when you are born again you are to be baptized.
There is no mention of baptizing infants in the Didache, and there is no record of infant baptism in the first or second century. By the third century there are a few disputed cases, but by the end of the third century the baptisms are Rome-style "saving" baptisms. Until the time of Zwingli and Calvin, there is no infant baptism articulated that is not saving.
Dever's presented a summary that the oldest opinion would be that of believers baptism, the second oldest opinion that of the "saving" baptisms of the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholics, and the third oldest being 1,000 years later with the reformers.
In Romans 6 Paul is assuming that all those who have the new life have been baptized (again, being born again then baptized). There is an implies acceptance of the cognitive gospel prior to baptism.
Here's the link to the message: Polity in the Local Church with Mark Dever
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